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Hello - As a MacDonnell (of the W. Isles...Islay & Antrim) I would like to lend a hand & maybe give some joy to someone. I bought a pic. frame at an auction in Colac Vic. which has a Clan McCrae gathering photo of around 1900-1910? (about 50 males, men & boys, many great highland outfits, etc)- on back it is to go from Geelong to "Camperdown Railway Station" - just west of Colac I presume. Could be a gathering in Scotland judging by the outfits sent out to a homesick McRae 'pioneer'? Or local & printed in Geelong? Someone may know about this "clan" photo? Or if interested anyway, plse let me know & I'll try to scan to you.(maybe too big) Send this to the Aust. president plse. Would be interesting to post on your site. I have not taken the frame apart yet to see what maybe on the back of the photo or mounts?? I am in Melbourne - 03 96450184. I couldn't just let this faboulous picture of McCrae men, history & tradition just just disappear into the mist forever!
Eoin MhicDhomhnaill..,
aka, Ian Macdonnell ("there's no joy without Clan Donnell!")

Query posted by : Ian MacDonnell

24 May 2004 at 06.54
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The following replies have been posted in response to the above query. They are sorted chronologically according to the time of receipt, with the most recent at the end of the page.
 
 
adding more info :- the photo contains 3 'generations' (age groups) of McCrae males.
The Australian President, Ian, has rung me already and is organising a Melbourne McCrae rep. to visit me and inspect the photo. I understand preservation/conservation issues for old photos & will be careful until it can be stabilised or conserved. It is in quite good condition.
Ian Macdonnell

Reply posted by : Ian MacDonnell

24 May 2004 at 08.42
 
 
dear IAN,I have just received a email from clan mcra.e re this photograph.I have sent a copy to clan mcrae in aust secretary here in australia.My name is paula roberts,my mother was heather mcrae and her greatgrandparents murdock and janet mcrae arrived in australia in portland in 1853,with their children kenneth,john,fanny,isabella,barbera,maryann and francis and settled in portfairy.Ihave been presently tracing family history.most of the family settled in the surrounding areas.I do not know if this would be of any of the family.I live in batemans bay and my mother lives with me
my email address is paudoral@austarnet.com.au
paula roberts

Reply posted by : Paula Roberts

10 Jul 2004 at 09.03
 
 
Ian,

My Grandmother - Mary McRae was born at Birregurra (between Colac & Camperdown)in 1883. She had 3 brothers; Donald John/ Michael Thomas & John & a sister Barbara. Her father was Donald Peter McRae who was born in Glenshiel in 1833. He came to Australia in 1851 on the Constance with his parents Donald (b approx 1795) and Barbara (nee Forbes) and siblings John, Malcolm, Thomas, Duncan, Alexander and Christy.

Your photo may have some connection to "my" McRae's.

Barbara

Reply posted by : B White

25 Sep 2004 at 02.05
 
 
Dear Barbara White,
Nice to 'meet you'. Thanks for your very useful information. The photo has been dated between 1883 and 1891. CFA Researcher, Peter Sutherland & Barbara McCumisky, Photographic Curator Fire Services Museum of Vic, have both been extremely helpful in identifying the 'Army type" coat & large sleeve badge of the 'GVFB Treasurer' in my photo - front row(Geelong Volunteer Fire Brigade)- probably the McRae clan at the "Comun Na Feinn" Highland Gathering, Geelong c.1883-91. The rail to Camperdown only opened in 1883 and in 1891 the Country Fire brigades Board (the forerunner of the CFA) was formed.
In the photo there are clear images of 4 boys and 1 girl under the age of around 9. They could be your grandmother & siblings? (Lovely outfits incl lace collars.) Especially because the auction was of goods belonging to a (Dr?)Donald McRae, Colac. A Donald (their father?)was a good dancer I believe & he is probably in the photo also (many pipers & dancers in kilts).
Have you seen the close ups of the photo that I have sent & do you have any photos of "your" McRae's to see if an identification match may be achieved? Would be wonderful outcome.
Kind Regards,
Ian.

Reply posted by : Ian MacDonnell

26 Sep 2004 at 03.45
 
 
Hi Ian,

Do you have the photo posted somewhere?
My sister has a photo of my Grandmother & her siblings when they were very young but it is quite small & not very clear. I would recognise them if I saw them I think though. My mother may have a better idea though, she is about to turn 88. I am in Melbourne also & have left you my phone number in your message bank.

Regards

Barbara

Reply posted by : B White

27 Sep 2004 at 12.29
 
 
Greetings to both Ian and Barbara. The photo may well include my forbears as Alexander (son of Donald & Barbara) married my Great Aunt - Catherine Macdonald of Gheringhap. A correction - Birregurra is to the east of Colac not between Colac & Camperdown. Further information on the Doctor - he is the son of Keith (son of Alex & Catherine) & Nancy (Anderson). The dancer Donald may be the Donald John that you note Barbara

Reply posted by : Ken MacDonald

14 Nov 2004 at 11.11
 
 
Hello Ken,
That's great news. Glad to be of assistance. Looks like Clan MacRae & Clan Donald(Donnell)got on pretty well! Do you want to be sent the photo by email with 4 close ups for good detail of faces and cloths, badges, etc.? You may identify some if you too have old photos too?
Ian.

Reply posted by : Ian MacDonnell

14 Nov 2004 at 23.48
 
 
Hi Ken

Sorry I got the location of Birregurra wrong! Funny how your mind plays tricks on you!.

Mum has identified the man on the LHS of the man in white as her Grandfather Donald Peter McRae but we don't know anyone else.

I live in Melbourne on 03 9354 4134

Regards

Barbara

Reply posted by : B White

15 Nov 2004 at 07.21
 
 
Ian

Your offer to send me the photo is much appreciated. Please send to kcmacd@netconnect.com.au . My phone number is 03 53548286

Barbara
Thanks for your input - hopefully we may be able to identify more

Regards - Ken Macdonald

Reply posted by : Ken MacDonald

15 Nov 2004 at 10.55
 
 
I have a McCrae relative that lived in Colac, Victoria, Australia. Have lost all contact with family, I wonder????? His name was Gavin died 1935 married to Janet. They had 6 children. The boys were James William and John. I would love to get a look at the picture. Also just of interest my sister is married to a McDonnell. His parents came over from Ireland. Not sure where his name was James Patrick and his wife was Eileen O'Connor. Ever heard of them? Nita

Reply posted by : Nita Caffrey

10 Jan 2005 at 03.24
 
 
Dear Nita,
Hello there; (where's 'there'?). Here is a good website that contains a lot of info on some Aussie MacRae's - it is Barbara White's. (of this forum). It also contains pics incl "mine" of the gathering in question. follow the "McRae" links.
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~perkwhit/home.html
I cant remember seeing a Gavin. Unfortunately I don't know James Pat McDonnell neither sorry. If you'd like a copy of the photo plse post your email address. All the best, Ian.

Reply posted by : Ian MacDonnell

10 Jan 2005 at 03.55
 
 
Hello Ian.
i have just read your post on the Macrae site and found your picture of interest. would there be any chance i could see a copy of this photo?
i will of cause pay for any expenses.
Many thanks
John McCrea

Reply posted by : John McCrea

16 Jan 2005 at 15.11
 
 
Hello John,
Pleased to help - this is the reason I posted the photo - to "return the image to the clan'. I plan to put it into the State Library or Museum in March for proper archiving, posterity & permanent access. By then sufficient MacRaes will know about it. Do you want an email with digital image (incl close ups) or a photo/graphic copy?
Ian.

Reply posted by : Ian MacDonnell

16 Jan 2005 at 23.54
 
 
Hello, Ian MacDonnell, just like to say thanks for being so thoughtful.
I wouldnee mind a sneak peak at your picture Some how
I would be prepared to pay for a copy
& Postage to my address in Sydney (just up the road) so I could compare with my old photos
Yours truly,
Andrew
p.s.Single malt ISLAY is great

Reply posted by : Andrew MacRae

14 Oct 2005 at 07.08
 
 
Andrew, Hi. Would you like me to send the pic by email first. Can you handle 900kb (good image) or prefer smaller size? My email adress is :-
imacdonn@bigpond.net.au
Yeah,..Islay whiskey is really the best. Currently have Lagavulin - made near Lord of Isles castle Dunyveg. Very strong flavours but soon "adapt"!
Would be interesting to see if you can match any faces form your photos.I notice your spelling is "Mac". Have identified one of them. More later. All the best,
Ian

Reply posted by : Ian MacDonnell

15 Oct 2005 at 00.17
 
 
Andrew, Hi. Would you like me to send the pic by email first. Can you handle 900kb (good image) or prefer smaller size? My email adress is :-
imacdonn@bigpond.net.au
Yeah,..Islay whiskey is really the best. Currently have Lagavulin - made near Lord of Isles castle Dunyveg. Very strong flavours but soon "adapt"!
Would be interesting to see if you can match any faces form your photos.I notice your spelling is "Mac". Have identified one of them. More later. All the best,
Ian

Reply posted by : Ian MacDonnell

15 Oct 2005 at 00.17
 
 
Andrew, Hi. Would you like me to send the pic by email first. Can you handle 900kb (good image) or prefer smaller size? My email adress is :-
imacdonn@bigpond.net.au
Yeah,..Islay whiskey is really the best. Currently have Lagavulin - made near Lord of Isles castle Dunyveg. Very strong flavours but soon "adapt"!
Would be interesting to see if you can match any faces from your photos. I notice your spelling is "Mac". Have identified one of them. More later. All the best,
Ian

Reply posted by : Ian MacDonnell

15 Oct 2005 at 01.36
 
 
I am unable to help but the australian President is Ian McCrae J.P. McCrae House 21 Bowman St., Muswellbrook NSW 2333 Ph 02 6542 5649
Email mccraeian@hotmail.com. A Clan MacRae dinner is being organised Muswellbrook RSL Club 1/4/06. Cost $33.00 PP. There is an optional bus tour the next day. Maybe you could consider coming to that and bringing your photo along. Contact details for Clan MacRae Dinner and bus trip areSecretary Miss Elma McRae 1/23B Albert Pde Ashfield NSW 2131 PH/Fax 02 97985358. Best of Luck....Keith MacRae

Reply posted by : Keith MacRae

27 Jan 2006 at 01.55
 
 
thanks for the invite.........sounds good but I can't come. I already spend far too much time on my Macdonnell genealogy!

Reply posted by : Ian MacDonnell

30 Jan 2006 at 08.05
 
 
Hi Ian
I'm a few years late here but would it be possible for you to email me a copy of this photo. I would love to see it as I am a McRae who's family came from the Hebrides.
Thanks for you time, from Vancouver, British Columbia Canada
Cheers
Gail McRae
pipermcrae@shaw.ca

Reply posted by : Gail McRae

24 Jun 2008 at 04.13
 
 
Hi,

I would be interested in a scan of this photo - I am wondering if it is similar to one at Museum Victoria of a Mccrae family photo MM 001371 of a Farquhar McCrae and his family (Misspelled Farqhar on that site)

I have a photo album of Geogiana McCrae's who has some of this family in it too.

Reply posted by : Tim

9 Nov 2008 at 23.44
 
 
Could you send me a scan - as big a file as possible - I can handle up to 10 or 20 megabyte files. to tim.edwards@paradise.net.nz see photos of the album at flickr.com under ephemeralkiwi

Reply posted by : Tim

9 Nov 2008 at 23.48
 
 
Hi Ian and Barbara

I am the brother of Ken Macdonald of Elmhurst.

Unfortunately we lost Ken in 2013.

Ken, myself, and my sister Christine were working together on our Macdonald, McLennan, McRae, Matheson history, most of whom landed at Geelong / Point Henry during the middle of the 19th century.

I am in the process of sorting and tidying up our work so we can pass it on to my nephew and cousin.

I can be contacted at malcolm@macdonald.com

I will post more information and queries as I bring it together.

Regards Malcolm Macdonald

Reply posted by : Malcolm MacDonald

2 Jun 2016 at 03.20
 
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