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In researching my family history I have come to a halt with my great great grandmother, Martha McColl(nee Macrae).

Tracing the history through census information and family records, I discover that my grandmother (Margaret McColl who I remember before she died in 1947) was the daughter of Alexander McColl (a schoolmaster in Bolton) who was born in 'Inverness' in 1827. Further research revealed that he was the second son of Martha McColl (nee MacRea). Census information then revealed that she (Martha), and her sister Catherine were born in Genshiel. Catherine in 1789 and Martha in 1798. Somewhere in the early 1820s Martha married John McColl and moved to Glenelg where her sons John (b. 1825 - emigrated to Australia), Alexander (b. 1827, my great grandfather - 'emigrated' to Bolton Lancashire) Christina (b. about 1828) and Hugh (b about1837) were born. Another son, Malcolm was born in Glenfinnan - a long way away. After John McColl's death (about 1840 - buried in Glenelg) Martha moved back to Kintail where her sons learned to speak English (she only ever spoke The Gaelic). Then, by the time of the 1851 census, for reasons I do not know, Martha had then moved to Ballahulish in Argyll with her sister Catherine MacRae and some of her children. She is buried in Corpach (outside Fort William).

Her offspring all did well. Alexander a Head Schoolmaster in Bolton, Malcom became a Canon of Ripon and a friend of Gladsttone (but upset the Presbyterian Church by crossing to the Church of England)and Hugh, a very well known mathamatician, logician and writer of eraly science fiction novels (his books on algebra will still in use in the 1950s)

Martha's father according to unverified family record was Malcolm McRae (son of Murdo, son of John) who lived in Letterfearn, Kintail. Married Anne MacDonald.

Can anybody help to establish Martha's ancestors.

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was our clan involved at bannockburn

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Hello. My name is Claire Margaret Jordan but I am the illegitimate daughter of Roderick (Rory) Denis Edward Langford-Rae. My father was part Burmese but the Rae side of his family were Southern Irish Catholics from Kerry who moved to the Raj in the mid 19th C. The family name was originally Rae rather than Langford Rae, but Langford occurred as a common first or middle name among the Kerry Raes, who seem to have been quite well-to-do landowners. I assume the family were originally Jacobite refugees.

My problem is this. I never knew my father, because my parents split up over religious differences and when my mother tried to trace my father a few years later, she found that he had been killed in an accident in Assam when I was six.

I have recently traced one of my father's much younger half-brothers. One of them knew my father very well and he has told me that my father did a lot of genaeological and historical research into his family.

Now, this guy, my half uncle, is remembering conversations he had as a very young man 46 years ago, but he reckons he clearly remembers my father telling him - several times, from the sound of it - that he had learned that in 901AD the MacRaes almost died out as a family, and were saved only because a monk who was a MacRae quit the church in order to have lots of children.

This would make perfectly sound cultural sense. The MacRaes would still have been in Ireland at that point, there were probably still some monasteries left which adhered to the Celtic Church, and monks in the Celtic Church were permitted to marry.

Unfortunately, however, I haven't managed to find any references to this story. Does anybody recognise it and know where my father would have heard it?

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Hi,
I have a 2greatgrandnother Catherine MCRAE born about 1806 in Kintail, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland.
It was 1st thought that she was illegitimate daughter of Catherine McCUAIG ( ms McRAE) but I have now reason to believe that Catherine (Senior) had married a John McRae son of Farquhar Roy McRAE in 1804 0 Catherine (Junior) was born in 1805/6 in Kintail. There is a marriage record 16/May 1804 in Glensheil. It looks like Catherine McRae daughter of John Bayne McAlister
According to a record on " Morman Familysearch" John was Born about 1782 ( to Farquhar Roy MCRAE) and Catherine About 1887 in Glensheil Kintail.
This Farquhar would have to be born about 1760?
There are so many Farquhar McRae born R & C. Does anyone have a record of this Farquhar???
I do know that 3 of the children of Catherine (Junior) married to Donald McDONALD, after the death of their parents- between 1852.550 were liv ing with a John MCRAE (cousin)a school Teacher in the Applecross district 1861 census- John born Glensheil and aged 33yrs. The death cert. of a child Catherine who died in 1855 was living with a Marion and John MCRAE (Uncle & Aunt>) when she died. in Bernena. Another child Ann was living with a widow Mary McRAE aged 70 in 1891 census in Kintail district. After the tragic death of Catherine McRae and Donald MCDONALD the children were all scattered living with Mcrae relations.
In the case of John he was described as their cousin?? Can anyone please help.
many thanks,
Janet in Canterbury NZ (janet-d@clear.net.nz)

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Hi,
I have a 2greatgrandnother Catherine MCRAE born about 1806 in Kintail, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland.
It was 1st thought that she was illegitimate daughter of Catherine McCUAIG ( ms McRAE) but I have now reason to believe that Catherine (Senior) had married a John McRae son of Farquhar Roy McRAE in 1804 0 Catherine (Junior) was born in 1805/6 in Kintail. There is a marriage record 16/May 1804 in Glensheil. It looks like Catherine McRae daughter of John Bayne McAlister
According to a record on " Morman Familysearch" John was Born about 1782 ( to Farquhar Roy MCRAE) and Catherine About 1887 in Glensheil Kintail.
This Farquhar would have to be born about 1760?
There are so many Farquhar McRae born R & C. Does anyone have a record of this Farquhar???
I do know that 3 of the children of Catherine (Junior) married to Donald McDONALD, after the death of their parents- between 1852.550 were liv ing with a John MCRAE (cousin)a school Teacher in the Applecross district 1861 census- John born Glensheil and aged 33yrs. The death cert. of a child Catherine who died in 1855 was living with a Marion and John MCRAE (Uncle & Aunt>) when she died. in Bernena. Another child Ann was living with a widow Mary McRAE aged 70 in 1891 census in Kintail district. After the tragic death of Catherine McRae and Donald MCDONALD the children were all scattered living with Mcrae relations.
In the case of John he was described as their cousin?? Can anyone please help.
many thanks,
Janet in Canterbury NZ (janet-d@clear.net.nz)

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